It cant be any worse: Thousand Oaks grieves after massacre as questions remain about gunman

\It can\t be any worse\: Thousand Oaks grieves after massacre as questions remain about gunman
California bar gunman went from a Marine to living with mom
Distraught mother makes an emotional plea after her son is killed at Californias Borderline Bar & Grill.

A California man who escaped the mass shooting at a Las Vegas country music festival in October 2017 was one of the 12 people murdered a little more than a year later in another mass shooting at a country music venue.

According to authorities, the shooter was 28-year-old Ian Long, a former Marine combat veteran who had been stationed in Afghanistan. Police said Long used a .45-caliber Glock handgun with an illegal, extra-capacity magazine, first shooting a security guard outside the bar. Witnesses said he deployed smoke bombs before going in and aiming at employees and customers, reports CBS News correspondent Carter Evans.

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Telemachus Orfanos was at Borderline Bar & Grill, a Thousand Oaks establishment packed Wednesday for "college country night," when former Marine and Afghanistan war veteran Ian David Long entered the bar, deployed a smoke device and, without a word, began gunning down patrons.

In a Facebook update attributed to Long by CNN, which said it was posted around the time of the shootings, he writes: “I hope people call me insane (laughing emojis).. wouldnt that just be a big ball of irony? Yeah… Im insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is hopes and prayers.. or keep you in my thoughts… every time… and wonder why these keep happening…”

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Orfanos, 27, was a military veteran, too, having served in the U.S. Navy from 2011 to 2014. He moved back to California to stay with his parents after he finished his service and, at the time of Wednesday's shooting, he was working for a car dealership.

On Oct. 1, 2017, Orfanos was at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas when a gunman perched inside a Mandalay Bay hotel room overlooking the concert venue rained down a hail of gunfire on the helpless hundreds below. Stephen Paddock killed 58 people and wounded hundreds more before he killed himself. Even 13 months later, investigators have yet to definitively detail a motive for the massacre.

On Thursday police searched the home Long shared with his mother. There were rumors Long suffered from PTSD. Longs high school track coach said he physically assaulted her his senior year, but she never filed charges.

Orfanos made it out alive that night, and, on Thursday morning, his mother, Susan Schmidt-Orfanos was hoping her son had been lucky again.

“My friend killed my other friends, and I was just there to see it all happen,” Stratton said. “I didnt think that he was the type of person that would do this, and I dont understand it.”

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Telemachus Orfanos, a Las Vegas massacre surivor, who was killed in Wednesday nights shooting at a California bar. (Facebook)

“They ran out of back doors, they broke windows,” Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said. “Unfortunately, our young people, people at night clubs have learned that this may happen.”

“I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts,” she told reporters. “I want those b——– in Congress — they need to pass gun control so no one else has a child that doesn't come home.”

“There are hundreds of thousands of people with PTSD. They dont go around shooting people. This kid was mentally disturbed in high school,” Dominique Colell said.

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Governor-elect Gavin Newsom lamented the violence during a public appearance Thursday, the Democrat's first since winning his election Tuesday.

At the vigil, hundreds joined in song inside the Thousand Oaks Civic Arts Plaza while an overflow crowd gathered outside to remember those who were lost.

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“It's a gun culture,” he said. “You can't go to a bar or nightclub? You can't go to church or synagogue? It's insane is the only way to describe it. The normalization, that's the only way I can describe it. It's become normalized.”

Orfanos’ father, Mark Orfanos, said the shooter — who officials indicated may have suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder —  “was probably as much of a victim as everybody else.”

Gunfire can be heard in dramatic cell phone video recorded during the attack. Police said the gunman appeared to fire at random.

“I’m not gonna vilify this kid because he's got parents that are grieving, too,” Mark Orfanos said. “And I feel sorry for them as well. Until I find out particularly what the specifics are with this kid who did the shooting I’m not gonna be vilifying him.”

Long, 28, was a former military machine gunner who apparently killed himself after the Wednesday night attack in Thousand Oaks, the quiet suburb where he lived with his mother.

A night that shouldve been filled with dancing & laughter turned tragic by senseless violence — our hearts are heavy for the people of Thousand Oaks and everyone affected by the mass shooting at the Borderline Bar, which took 12 lives including @VENTURASHERIFF Sergeant Ron Helus pic.twitter.com/7FmY3kw5mc

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Neighbors said Thursday they would hear loud, aggressive fights between the two. Authorities said they visited that ranch-style house only once, in April, after a neighbor reported yelling and crashing sounds.

Deputies found Long “was somewhat irate, acting a little irrationally” and called in a mental health specialist, Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said. That specialist assessed Long but concluded he couldnt be involuntarily committed for psychiatric observation.

“The mental health experts out there cleared him that day,” Dean told reporters Thursday, though they were concerned he might be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder because of his military service.

The entire LA Kings organization is deeply shaken by this senseless and horrific act on one of our local communities. Our thoughts are with the victims and their families. We wish all the people of Thousands Oaks strength and peace and we share in their sadness and grief.

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“Obviously he had something going on in his head that would cause him to do something like this,” Dean said.

A next-door neighbor said he called authorities about six months ago when he heard loud banging and shouting at Longs home.

Pepperdine officials are working with authorities and will provide updates as more information is available. The University offers its deepest condolences and is praying for everyone involved in tonight’s tragic events. (2/2)

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“I was concerned because I knew he had been in the military,” neighbor Tom Hanson said Thursday, as federal and local law enforcement officers searched Longs house, where an American flag flew over the garage.

Longs only other contact with authorities came after a traffic collision and after he alleged he was the victim of a violent encounter in 2015 at another bar in Thousand Oaks, the sheriff said.

Long enlisted in the Marines at 18 and was married as a 19-year-old in Honolulu in June 2009, according to military and court records.

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His military service lasted nearly five years, and he was honorably discharged with the rank of corporal in 2013, the Pentagon said. He was part of the infantry, responsible for hauling and shooting machine guns.

Brendan Kelly speaks with reporters outside his home, as he shows his Route 91 tattoo, Thursday, Nov. 8, 2018, in Thousand Oaks, Calif. Kelly, a Marine who was at Borderline Bar and Grill on Wednesday night, helped people get out after a gunman opened fire at the establishment. Kelly also survived the Las Vegas Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting in 2017. (AP Photo/Ryan Pearson)

During his service, Longs marriage fell apart. He and his wife separated in June 2011, while he was deployed on a seven-month tour in Afghanistan. The couple cited irreconcilable differences in divorce papers filed in May 2013, two months after Long left the Marines.

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Later, he enrolled at nearby California State University, Northridge, last attending in 2016, the school said in a statement.

More recently he was living in a home where neighbors said they could hear frequent, aggressive shouting between Long and his mother, especially over the last year.

Everywhere I go, everything I do is affected, he said. I dont sit in a room with my back to the door. Youre always picking up on social cues. Youre always overanalyzing people, trying to figure out if something were to go down, What would I do?

About 18 months ago, Don and Effie MacLeod heard “an awful argument” and what he believes was a gunshot from the Longs property. Don MacLeod said he did not call police but avoided speaking with Ian Long.

“I told my wife, Just be polite to him. If he talks, just acknowledge him, dont go into conversation with him,” Don MacLeod said Thursday.

They found themselves in a terrifyingly familiar scene Wednesday night, when bullets began flying once again. This time, gunfire claimed a Navy veteran who had lived through the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history a year ago.

Sparse pictures on social media showed a happy Long family. His mother, Colleen, posted Facebook photos of her son in his military uniform in 2010 and 2011.

The mother of the 27-year-old man killed in the latest attack , Telemachus Tel Orfanos, said her son survived Vegas only to die inside Borderline, less than 10 minutes from his home in suburban Los Angeles.

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“My Son is home, well sort of, back in Hawaii, soon to be in Cali come January, hooray!” she wrote on Dec. 14, 2012.

During Wednesdays shooting, Kelly said he threw two of his friends to the floor and covered them with his body. Then he got a look at the shooter and the terror unfolding and decided they needed to escape.

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Another photo from 2014 shows Ian Long with his arm draped around his mother in front of Dodger Stadium. The two were wearing Dodgers T-shirts and smiles.

I already didnt wish it on anybody to begin with for the first time, Brendan Kelly said Thursday outside his Thousand Oaks home. The second time around doesnt get any easier.

Authorities havent identified what motivated Long to open fire during college night at Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks, around 40 miles (64 kilometers) from downtown Los Angeles. The city of about 130,000 people is consistently near the top of lists ranking the safest places in California.

Kelly has a large tattoo on his left arm memorializing the Las Vegas shooting, which killed 58 people. On his other arm Thursday, he still had his wristband from the California bar.

The dead included 11 people inside the bar and a veteran sheriffs sergeant who was the first officer through the door.

The Marine Corps said Long earned several awards, including a Combat Action Ribbon and a Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, Third Marine Division in Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii.

Pritchard reported from Los Angeles. Contributing were Michael Kunzelman in College Park, Maryland; Tami Abdollah and Lolita Baldor in Washington; Alina Hartounian in Phoenix; and Reese Dunklin in Dallas.


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